Tim Tebow’s journey into anti-trafficking work began with a phone call from his father, who had just purchased the freedom of four girls at an underground pastor’s conference. That moment ignited a calling that has grown into a movement—one that now includes 150 entrepreneurs gathered in Boulder, Colorado, united by a single mission: disrupt human trafficking through innovative business solutions.

Alongside Wes Lyons of Eagle Venture Fund, Tim reveals how the for-profit sector is no longer sitting on the sidelines. Inspired by the Clapham network that helped William Wilberforce end the slave trade, today’s entrepreneurs are building a counter-trafficking industry projected to reach $5 billion by 2030. From training healthcare workers who encounter 90% of trafficking victims to creating digital safety tools for children, these ventures prove that mission-driven businesses can generate both impact and returns.

This conversation challenges every assumption about “balanced living,” reveals why apathy—not evil—is often the real enemy, and explains what it truly means to be made in God’s image. Tim unpacks insights from his book “Look Again,” showing how recognizing worth transforms how we see the vulnerable. Most powerfully, you’ll discover why looking away isn’t neutral—it creates the very invisibility that traffickers exploit.

00:00 Introduction: Once rescued, join the rescue squad

01:12 Welcome to Boulder and the Clapham gathering

02:08 What is Clapham? 150 entrepreneurs fighting trafficking

02:57 Why a dense network matters for complex problems

04:26 For-profit DNA: Abundance vs. scarcity mindset

04:57 Big God mindset over limited mindset

05:56 The history of Clapham and William Wilberforce

06:54 Introducing people to the issue: Accessibility beyond complexity

07:43 Human trafficking vs. sexual exploitation: Understanding motives

08:11 The villain behind the villain: What brought Tim to this fight

08:35 Tim’s origin story: His father rescues four girls

10:00 The pastors who did nothing and the power of excuses

11:20 Meeting the girl whose mother boiled out her eye

13:12 The book “Look Again” and choosing to see

14:08 Why it hurts to draw near to people’s pain

15:13 The root issue: Value and worth

15:14 Nazi Germany and “life unworthy of life”

17:54 What does “made in God’s image” really mean?

19:34 From image bearer to image being

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21:46 Transforming heart, mind, and eyes through looking again

22:18 When we don’t see people, darkness targets them

23:40 The villain’s coordination vs. the church’s response

24:32 Against living a balanced life

25:08 Why do we need balance?

26:17 I don’t want to arrive in heaven well-rested

27:16 How do you make money fighting trafficking?

28:24 For-profit, for purpose, and for people

29:49 [Church partnership network ad]

30:36 The size of the army needed for this fight

31:47 Ashley Chapman: Training healthcare workers to identify trafficking

32:53 Trafficking victims at your child’s school

33:30 The counter-trafficking industry: $500M to $5B by 2030

34:43 Compounding impact vs. compounding interest

36:13 Making money matter

37:47 Matt Hasselbeck: Giving beats throwing touchdowns

38:46 How to get in this fight

39:39 Outro and community invitation

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Pat Gelsinger sits down with Justin Forman to explore one of the most critical inflection points in church history: Will the faith community lead in the AI revolution or watch from the sidelines? Drawing parallels to the Gutenberg printing press and Martin Luther, Pat makes the case that we’re at a similar watershed moment—but this time with technology that can educate every child on earth, conquer all 7,000 languages, and accelerate mission in unprecedented ways.

After 45 uninterrupted years in operational tech roles at Intel, Pat shares candidly about his painful transition and what God is teaching him about seasons, identity, and stewarding a new kind of influence. Now investing in 10+ companies and leading Gloo—the faith technology platform—Pat reveals why the church must show up “bigger” to influence major tech companies and why fragmentation is the enemy of Kingdom impact.

Learn about the flourishing AI benchmarks measuring models against human wellbeing (with surprising results), why 900 Bay Area churches are unified under Transforming the Bay WITH Christ, and what it means to train AI models on “the good stuff.”

00:00 Introduction: 20 years pioneering faith and work conversation

01:03 From Juggling Act to today: What’s changed in 20 years

02:04 Next-generation entrepreneurs: Spiritual expectations of success

03:52 Redefining wealth: Beyond numbers to freedom and purpose

05:21 Balanced life vs. juggling act: Intentionality over perfection

07:41 45 years at Intel: The painful, purposeful transition

10:15 Harvesting learnings from difficult seasons

12:06 God’s timing isn’t your timing in transitions

13:43 The new season: Investing, Gloo, and family focus

14:46 What is Gloo? Building the faith technology platform

17:00 The Gutenberg moment: Printing press meets AI

19:18 Why the church abandoned the marketplace (and why Gloo won’t)

20:17 Making Gloo big enough to matter at the tech table

21:44 The church is massively resourced but tragically fragmented

22:03 Largest fragmented industry on planet earth

24:00 Fueling tech companies with our advertising dollars

25:20 Flourishing AI benchmarks: Measuring models on human wellbeing

26:01 Surprising result: DeepSeek (Chinese model) leads in flourishing

27:12 Absence of bad is not proof of good in AI

28:12 Training models on “the good stuff” from Christian works

29:09 Good stuff in, good stuff out: The model training principle

30:43 Denominational customization: 99% core, 1% unique perspective

34:24 Every language, every child: The normative future of faith tech

35:30 Connecting the kingdom: The light bulb moment in Bay Area

36:05 VMware CEO role and the birth of TBC vision

38:15 900 churches in Bay Area: Hard ground, kingdom fruit

39:07 “For Christ” vs “WITH Christ”: The critical preposition

40:10 Find what wakes you up and bring it to your business

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What happens when an entrepreneur empties his life savings to buy six motorcycles in rural Uganda? A movement begins. Jared Fulks shares the remarkable story of PureFlow, a faith-driven business that started with 250 applications in 24 hours for a lease-to-own program and has grown to serve thousands of “Boda Boda” (motorcycle taxi) drivers across Uganda.

But this isn’t just a business success story. It’s about divine appointments in Dallas Ubers, partnerships forged through prayer, and the counterintuitive wisdom of starting in tier-two cities instead of capital markets. Jared reveals how reframing their finance company as a “hospitality business” transformed their culture, customer retention, and Kingdom impact—and why African emerging markets offer unique advantages for faith-driven entrepreneurs willing to take low-cost probes.

00:00 Four African Uber drivers in 24 hours: Divine appointments in Dallas

01:07 The Boda Boda industry: Uganda’s million-strong motorcycle taxi market

05:11 How PureFlow started: Six bikes and 250 applications

07:54 Why NOT to start in a remote village (but why it worked)

08:49 Building trust and community in tier-two cities

09:31 The incredible story of the customer who returned the bike

11:13 Tier-two and tier-three city advantages over urban markets

12:13 Africa’s youthful population and urbanization trends

13:53 Your ride-share business IS infrastructure

15:20 Partnership as a “God idea” woven into creation

17:03 How prayer preceded the partnership with Colin

17:52 Operating agreements: Trust with accountability

19:37 Scaling community: From 6 to 5,000 customers

20:24 Digital payments and maintaining fellowship

23:23 From finance company to hospitality business

23:41 The competitive landscape and bootstrapped growth model

25:49 Creating raving fans through word-of-mouth marketing

26:13 Customer lifetime value and economic transformation

27:01 The PureFlow Football Club: Creative customer acquisition

28:09 Managing a business remotely: Weekly calls and spiritual check-ins

30:13 Advice for aspiring emerging market entrepreneurs

30:52 Colin’s journey: From pilot to Uganda nonprofit to PureFlow

32:47 Being present: Walking to work and meeting Boda drivers

33:01 Luke 10 framework: Finding the man of peace

34:39 Low-cost probes: Testing ideas cheaply in Africa

35:16 The failed airstrip idea and $26 medicine story

36:01 The freneticism of African markets sparks creativity

37:42 Simple solutions to simple problems scale easily

38:48 Leading with relationship in outdoor culture

40:42 Pressing the gas: Don’t subsidize with philanthropy too soon

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Most Christian entrepreneurs dread the idea of heaven—endless worship services with harps and clouds sounds more like punishment than paradise. But what if our entire vision of eternity is based on cultural half-truths rather than Scripture? Jordan Raynor joins Justin Forman to unpack a revolutionary biblical understanding of the new earth that transforms how we work today.

Learn why matter matters eternally, how your business work is rehearsal for eternity, and why understanding heaven as renewed earth (not escape from earth) unlocks unprecedented purpose and joy in entrepreneurship right now.

00:00 Introduction: Why most entrepreneurs dread heaven

00:42 Welcome and Dallas connection

02:05 The half-truths about heaven stealing our purpose

03:17 Half-truth #1: Earth is our temporary home

04:45 When matter doesn’t matter, your work doesn’t matter

06:24 Foundation Groups: Journey together

07:16 The bumper sticker theology problem

08:15 What’s the better vision of heaven?

08:54 We will worship by working forever

11:10 Redemptive Excel spreadsheets are heavenly

11:42 Why entrepreneurs aren’t excited about traditional heaven views

13:09 Church partnership opportunity

13:57 Heaven as litmus test for work theology

14:55 The silver bullet to hurry: Unfinished symphonies

16:41 Creating a “someday maybe / new earth” project list

17:55 Running the race with the finish line in view

18:57 We’ve spent more time planning vacations than thinking about eternity

19:58 Find a community to think this through

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Bestselling author Jon Acuff opens his Nashville home to share the mental frameworks that have sustained him through 11 books, multiple business transitions, and the journey from corporate frustration to entrepreneurial freedom. This isn’t your typical mindset conversation—it’s a practical deep dive into the specific thought patterns that either propel or sabotage entrepreneurs.

From his international book shelf representing unexpected global impact to the hour-tracking charts that reveal his commitment to process over outcomes, Jon’s office tells the story of someone who has learned to manage both success and setbacks. Discover why he believes most entrepreneurs are bored rather than burned out, and how changing your internal soundtrack can change everything.

00:00 Introduction: The stories shelves tell

01:53 What shelves reveal about unexpected impact

03:10 Finding joy in the process, not just outcomes

04:41 The power of tracking hours and measuring what matters

07:07 Jon’s entrepreneurial origin story and holy frustration

10:39 Evolution from writer to entrepreneur mindset

12:38 The danger of endless desire vs. purposeful ambition

15:13 Why 40-something men are bored, not burned out

19:33 Understanding the soundtrack in your mind

22:50 The entrepreneur’s daily mental battle

26:35 Building muscle memory for positive thought patterns

28:10 Why repetition is required for mindset change

29:57 The comparison trap and office park analogy

35:03 Creating practical tools for family conversations

39:04 Fear as invitation to bravery, not enemy

43:07 Why sharing failures builds deeper connections

46:09 Learning new rhythms in life transitions

50:15 The joy of traveling and building together

55:03 Celebrating life seasons instead of mourning them

56:02 The prodigal son: A soundtrack of grace

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