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Episode 349: How Faith and Technology Will Shape the Future of the Church | Pat Gelsinger, Ex-Intel CEO
Pat Gelsinger sits down with Justin Forman to explore one of the most critical inflection points in church history: Will the faith community lead in the AI revolution or watch from the sidelines? Drawing parallels to the Gutenberg printing press and Martin Luther, Pat makes the case that we’re at a similar watershed moment—but this time with technology that can educate every child on earth, conquer all 7,000 languages, and accelerate mission in unprecedented ways.
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Pat Gelsinger sits down with Justin Forman to explore one of the most critical inflection points in church history: Will the faith community lead in the AI revolution or watch from the sidelines? Drawing parallels to the Gutenberg printing press and Martin Luther, Pat makes the case that we’re at a similar watershed moment—but this time with technology that can educate every child on earth, conquer all 7,000 languages, and accelerate mission in unprecedented ways.
After 45 uninterrupted years in operational tech roles at Intel, Pat shares candidly about his painful transition and what God is teaching him about seasons, identity, and stewarding a new kind of influence. Now investing in 10+ companies and leading Gloo—the faith technology platform—Pat reveals why the church must show up “bigger” to influence major tech companies and why fragmentation is the enemy of Kingdom impact.
Learn about the flourishing AI benchmarks measuring models against human wellbeing (with surprising results), why 900 Bay Area churches are unified under Transforming the Bay WITH Christ, and what it means to train AI models on “the good stuff.”
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction: 20 years pioneering faith and work conversation
01:03 From Juggling Act to today: What’s changed in 20 years
02:04 Next-generation entrepreneurs: Spiritual expectations of success
03:52 Redefining wealth: Beyond numbers to freedom and purpose
05:21 Balanced life vs. juggling act: Intentionality over perfection
07:41 45 years at Intel: The painful, purposeful transition
10:15 Harvesting learnings from difficult seasons
12:06 God’s timing isn’t your timing in transitions
13:43 The new season: Investing, Gloo, and family focus
14:46 What is Gloo? Building the faith technology platform
17:00 The Gutenberg moment: Printing press meets AI
19:18 Why the church abandoned the marketplace (and why Gloo won’t)
20:17 Making Gloo big enough to matter at the tech table
21:44 The church is massively resourced but tragically fragmented
22:03 Largest fragmented industry on planet earth
24:00 Fueling tech companies with our advertising dollars
25:20 Flourishing AI benchmarks: Measuring models on human wellbeing
26:01 Surprising result: DeepSeek (Chinese model) leads in flourishing
27:12 Absence of bad is not proof of good in AI
28:12 Training models on “the good stuff” from Christian works
29:09 Good stuff in, good stuff out: The model training principle
30:43 Denominational customization: 99% core, 1% unique perspective
34:24 Every language, every child: The normative future of faith tech
35:30 Connecting the kingdom: The light bulb moment in Bay Area
36:05 VMware CEO role and the birth of TBC vision
38:15 900 churches in Bay Area: Hard ground, kingdom fruit
39:07 “For Christ” vs “WITH Christ”: The critical preposition
40:10 Find what wakes you up and bring it to your business
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