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Episode 400 – How Chick-fil-A Plans to Feed the Future | David Farmer

Host Justin Forman sits down with David Farmer, Vice President of Innovation and New Ventures at Chick-fil-A. Together they look at how a company grows for 80 years without losing the things that make it what it is. The first Chick-fil-A restaurant opened in 1967. It was about 350 square feet inside an Atlanta mall, with room for roughly six seats. Today some Chick-fil-A operators move 500 cars through a single drive-through, which means a customer leaves with food every seven and a half seconds.

EPISODE NOTES

The first Chick-fil-A fit about six seats inside an Atlanta mall. Today, some operators move 500 cars an hour through one drive-through. David Farmer, Vice President of Innovation and New Ventures at Chick-fil-A, sits down with Justin Forman to explain how that happened without losing the personal, caring service people expect.

David traces Chick-fil-A’s innovation back to founder Truett Cathy. Truett deboned a chicken breast to turn tables faster, pioneered food in the mall, and built an operator model with a $10,000 refundable deposit and a 50/50 profit split. From there, the conversation covers Dan Cathy’s rogue lemonade recipe, the bottleneck that led to one juicing facility in California, the race from 100 cars an hour to 500, and the three-legged stool every new idea has to stand on.

For founders trying to grow without drifting, David offers a simple principle: get clear on what cannot change, then play freely inside the fence line. Watch the full episode on YouTube or continue to stream audio on your favorite podcast platform.

Chapters:

00:00 True north and the fence line

00:40 Introduction

01:22 The grand opening campout and free chicken for a year

03:44 What happens beneath the waterline

05:38 Truett Cathy’s 1946 diner

06:53 The origin of the Chick-fil-A sandwich

07:34 The first Chick-fil-A in a 350-square-foot mall space

08:15 Pioneering food in the mall

08:38 Why Truett built his own operator model

09:51 What Chick-fil-A looks for in an operator

11:39 Why operators stay close to the customer

13:05 The first freestanding restaurant in 1986

15:23 Scrappy innovation and Dan Cathy’s rogue lemonade

18:14 Juicing 15 cases of lemons a day

20:29 Find the bottleneck, find the unlock

20:47 The innovation center and the mock store

22:11 Know what cannot change

24:45 Reading weak signals and the shift to the drive-through

26:14 From 100 cars an hour to 500

27:09 Lessons from a NASCAR pit crew

28:53 Making the business case for canopies and doors

29:35 The three-legged stool test

30:22 Leadership, systems, and the Chick-fil-A One app

32:20 Healthy competition and iron sharpening iron

34:30 Could Chick-fil-A fix the TSA line?

35:18 Drones, robots, and the future of delivery

38:04 Which delivery bets hold the most promise

39:45 Going global: planting seeds for the future

41:27 The story behind “my pleasure”

45:01 Your next step: join a Faith Driven Entrepreneur Group

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