In this episode, Joey, Justin, and Henry discuss the new initiative called Solving the World's Greatest Problems. They address the skepticism around the audacious goal and emphasize the importance of being empowered by the Holy Spirit. They also highlight the role of the community in solving these problems and the need for collaboration and support. The initiative aims to provide clear next steps for individuals to build, invest, and give towards solving these problems. The podcast episodes focus on storytelling and creating a call to action for listeners.

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Episode Transcript

Joey Honescko You're listening to the Faith Driven Entrepreneur Podcast, a show dedicated to the movement of founders and leaders around the world who are using their businesses for the glory of God and the good of others. Let's get into it. Welcome back, everyone to the Faith Driven Entrepreneur podcast. I'm your host, Joey Honescko, alongside Justin Foreman and Henry Kastner. And today we're talking problem solving on a massive scale. We're going to talk about this new initiative. We have at Faith Driven Entrepreneur called Solving the World's Greatest Problems. And this is sort of part one of two episodes, because next week, we're going to premiere the first episode of the Solving the World's Greatest Problems podcast. That is much more narrative. A lot of storytelling, a lot of interesting audio elements and things like that. So we're going to get into all that in just a second. But first, gentlemen, how are you guys doing? How are you feeling about this episode? 

Henry Kaestner We're talking about something super important that gives me great energy and life, and hopefully it'll give our audience the same. I should note, though, that I am back. All this stuff is top of mind because I'm just back from five and a half weeks on the road to include some great time in West Africa. So a lot of the things that I saw there and the just the success that God is growing in the marketplace, there is top of mind, perfect backdrop for our conversation with the two of you. 

Justin Forman Yeah, perfect backdrop. Some of those travels, you know, and there's a lot of that that's going to drain you. But there's also events and things along the way that fuel you. And when we were talking about solving the world's greatest problems, I know Henry and I are just back from an incredible time at the Christian Economic Forum. Chuck Bentley, there's such great, great legacy tradition work that's been done there to gather so many of the movers, in this space, solving problems. And, man, it's travel is tiring, but yet that is refueling. And what a ministry. What an opportunity it was for us to be there. 

Henry Kaestner Indeed, indeed Quebec City to. I don't know if there's a prettier, more historic city in all of North America. That's epic. 

Joey Honescko Yeah. That's awesome. Well, Justin, you just mentioned it. That idea of solving the world's greatest problems. And I want to kick us off here because we've announced now that there's a new initiative called Solving the World's Greatest Problems. And I want to give us some time in this episode to go through the ins and outs of all that. But before we do that, we know on this podcast that I can be a bit of a skeptic and a bit of a cynic, and I think that I'm not the only one that's an entrepreneur that can do that. So I want to start with the title of this initiative, because it is called Solving the World's Greatest Problems, which is a, ambitious goal. And so I know you guys have thought about this. I know you guys are thoughtful about why you name the things, what, you name them. So I want to give you guys a chance to talk to the cynics like me that are saying, hey, that's an audacious goal. That's a big goal. Talk to us about how that's still possible to seed the church, actually solve the world's greatest problems. 

Justin Forman Yeah, great. Great question. I could say that that's what happens when you let the marketing team take an idea and run with it, and that's what you get. But, I think it starts with where it ends. Where do we want this to land? And I'm often reminded of Jon Erwin, the film producer that we're all familiar with. I Can Only Imagine, also doing some great stuff with the Wonder Project. And some of the content is going to continue to come out, and he's often quoted as talking about this idea of like knowing your audience. So many filmmakers, producers are creating content from a place of their passion and what they feel. And when we think about this initiative, I think that we're starting from a place of like, who are we creating this for? And, when we think about this and we think about solving the world's greatest problems, we're thinking about those people that are on the sidelines. Who are those people that aren't in the game yet, right now, who are those people that have been casually observing, watching, or they've been stuck somewhere? And when we think about that audience, you know, some of that's language, you know, I mean, we just had this incredible experience, like we talked about the Christian Economic Forum. There's other great experiences that Henry and I are blessed to partner with and be a part of Praxis in some of their gatherings. But there's only a limit, and there's there's a limit to how many people can make it to those events and be a part of those events and these dense networks and small communities. Solving the world's greatest problems is trying to be that bridge. It's trying to be that bridge to that next band of leaders. Outside of those conversation, maybe you can't hop on the plane, you can't be a part of that. And yet you feel this calling in your heart to say, how do we get involved? What does it look like to get in the game? And I think we wrestle through this a lot in the church. Then we talk about this in content languages. We conflate the audiences of people in the church and people out of the church. And sometimes we think the same message can hit the same people. And with solving the world's greatest problems. We're trying to, aim for those people that are outside the conversation. And when you do that, the question is, what has stopped them before. Why haven't they paid attention? Is there language? Is it accessibility? Is it content? Is it some of those things. And I think. There's so many people on there that have experienced the joy of the adventure that's on the other side. But for those people that haven't experienced it, haven't taken that step. The question I'd have is it does it feel more like a duty and an obligation more than this joyful, fully alive journey? And I think people want that quest. They want that journey. They want that. You know, Lord of the rings adventure where there's. It's dangerous, there's grit, it's risk and all of that. And, when you think about that and you think about language and we think about the entrepreneurs and investors we're trying to get in the game, and you think, what do entrepreneurs investors do? They solve problems. And when you think about the pains of the world, the opportunities of entrepreneurs, investors think it's born a lot about this language. And this idea of the world has problems. We all sense it. We feel it. We turn the news on, how do we connect that and make it easy for entrepreneurs and investors to see themselves in that story? And when you talk about languages solving problems, nobody does that more. And nobody does that more often than entrepreneurs investors. 

Joey Honescko Yeah, I love that. And I love that idea. Henry, I've heard you talk about this where, you know, it's a big goal, but to some extent, I've heard you say the idea that it's a big goal, but we serve a big God who does big things. And so it's not just that we're shouldering the load. The entrepreneurs and investors, not that they're shouldering the load to solve these problems, but that they're actually empowered by the spirit. And, Henry, I've heard you talk about that quite a bit. So I want to give you a little space to to kind of elaborate on that or add anything else you have on just this concept of solving the world's greatest problems. 

Henry Kaestner Yeah. Let me start off by saying I'll join you has been a little bit of a skeptic or a cynic on this, at least in terms of the titling. When we first started talking about the title, I didn't like it. We don't solve problems under our own power, and if we solve them for our own glory, we're in big trouble. Were redoing the Tower Babel all over again. And so the the tagline that accompanies solving world's greatest problems has to be under God's power and for his glory. I'm always a little bit skeptical when somebody comes in and says, hey, join us and change the world. It makes it sound like we can do that as humans and we can't. We are in a battle and it's not against flesh and blood. It's a spiritual battle, and we stand no chance of being able to solve any problem or enter into any battle and emerge victorious without this full armor of God, sword of the spirit, shield of faith, breastplate of righteousness all complement. And yet. I also really like a title that it kind of explains what you're doing, and we want the body of Christ to get rallied behind a cause that's big and it's bigger than them because there is a battle. There is a. Just a real opportunity to get out there on something bigger than ourselves. And, you know, we see wars at different places around the world right now, and we see people that are dying and willing to give up their lives for a much lesser causes than God's power and God's glory in his kingdom. How do we tap into that as a church, in a church that hasn't been known as being very active on the front lines for quite some period of time? You know, to be clear, massive exceptions all around the world, the body of Christ courageously leaning in. And yet we want to be rallied to a cause and almost look, well, not almost just to be that cultural. Exemplar like we were back in the 1800s and early 1900s when we were building schools and churches, of course, but hospitals all around the world, we were different. People said, you know, I want what they have, right? Start talks about that. That's when the body of Christ grows. So let's rally people to a big issue, a big opportunity and saw be involved under God's power for his glory in solving the world's greatest problems because many of them. Can be solved. There are things we can make massive progress. The church is doing that. If we can rally more of us together to do it in community, it can be awesome. So let's call it what it is solving world's greatest problems. But let's be clear that with ourselves, we can't do anything but with the power in the form of God and His Spirit, we can. 

Justin Forman Yeah. I mean, what a great place to start. And there's no better place to be grounded is we have to recognize God calling us to be faithful and to step out. But this is all him. This is what he chooses to do, how he might choose to work. But I think I'll push back a little bit on the skepticism side of things. I think there's a skepticism or like, should we call it this big audacious call? Should we call this? And I'm wondering, where does that skepticism come from? And I think if our taking a stab at it, I think it's because we bombarded with this idea that we can't the world's tallest, we can't, you know, media, whatever it is, the airwaves that are being controlled are telling us that we can't you know, we were talking about this analogy at a Christian economic forum. And, when we think about this initiative and we think about content, some of the first steps, like what's the why and what's the strategy? And I was reminded of this when we traveled, a couple months ago. We went to northern. So the continent and they're in Europe, in Brussels and Amsterdam and, you know, on the flight over there, and got hooked on this, docu or the series, if you guys might be familiar with Masters of the air is kind of the follow up to Band of Brothers. It's on Apple TV, and it follows the the path of the Hundredth Bombing Group. And what they did starting off in England, how they were bombing, continental Europe, trying to prepare for the invasion. And then they talked about this idea and they said, you know, we didn't make the decision to move forward with Normandy. We didn't make the decision to set foot there until we had air superiority, until we had control of the skies, because if not. You know, we're sitting ducks and there's no chance that we can really kind of accomplish that. And I think that some of the skepticism that's out there is because the airwaves and we don't have air superiority, we don't have this in the church. We don't even have it. We certainly don't have it outside in church. And I'm wondering if we even have an inside the church. Have we convinced ourselves that it is possible? Have we seen enough stories to know that it is possible to find light breaking through this darkness? And so we've experienced that. We've all experienced in in different levels. When you hear the personal stories, we've seen that the videos we've seen, you know, see him re in the work in Singapore and tight end worth that. They've been doing it green hoping you know Anthony Tan and grab and move Terry Thomas and movement schools with Cassian. We see all of these places. But I think what's missing is is we need a platform. We need a place in a space where we can see the church is winning and say, yes, this this is the kind of thing that makes us proud of the home team. This is the kind of thing that makes it things as possible. So yeah, it's not a surprise to me that I think most of us are starting from a place of skepticism. But I think our first step is to recognize there are people all around us, both on the other side of the world and in our backyard, that are showing that it is possible, if you step out, that it is possible, and that combined and collectively, the church is winning a whole lot more than we think. 

Henry Kaestner Yeah. God's kingdom is advancing. Jesus came to announce the coming of the Kingdom of God. And, I think there are a lot of different folks that might think about this differently theologically. But, you know, when we pray, Lord, your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven. I think that he might have us. I believe he has has been instruments of that under his power for his glory. And if his kingdom is advancing, we are in the process of solving those problems, building toward the New Jerusalem and and making all things new. And so let's, I love what you talked there about their supremacy part. I think that that's, and let's go to the body of Christ and encourage him like we are show, let's show the places where we're winning and so that people and feel really good about the home team. 

Justin Forman Yeah. And what I thought here and then I want to ask, kind of reverse the reverse the conversation here on Joey. I think one of the things when we talk about language of this initiative is that I think that we've gone as far as duty and obligation is going to take us in the church. I think we have to move into the place where we show the upside down adventure and the joy that comes with it. And I think part of that is a language conversation. I mean, we can look at the last 20 years, we can look at the last generation, the church. We can look at everything there. We know duty and obligation has either a low glass ceiling or it's leading us in decline. And so when we think about the language of this, I think, yes, it's audacious. Yes. It's all what God wants to do with it, how he might take it, how he might use it. But the language that we use to rally people to it. How do we cut away from obligation and duty and more to the joy that is in that adventure? And so, you know, I know we think about that from a story standpoint. But I'm going to flip this here to you, Joey, because, you know, from FTE and all the different podcasts and everything here, you're instrumental in meeting us into the creativity and the new initiatives of it. I want you to talk for a moment. I mean, we're announcing this new initiative, but there is a different podcast. There is a different way that we're going to go about doing that. And maybe if you could speak to kind of some of the early episodes that you've been leading us on and working through and kind of what's going into the style and the approach to it all. 

Joey Honescko Yeah for sure. Really cool to get to tell these stories. And I think to your point, Justin, of the churches winning, we are seeing those wins happen. So even for a hyper skeptic person like me, it's actually quite rewarding to hear the stories of the church doing these incredible things. And what both of you have mentioned, that some of these problems, all these problems are actually solvable, and we're seeing people actually solve them. So, the first one, we called it episode zero, and it was kind of a precursor to the whole initiative. And it tells the story of Dana and Bill Wicker, men who are two individuals that are a lot like many faith driven entrepreneurs and investors. They, came into some some wealth that they weren't expecting necessarily, like many do whenever there's a liquidity event or, an inheritance in their case. And they really wrestled with the question, what does it mean to handle this? Well, to steward this well, as Christians, as believers, and they really started navigating into how they could use their income, by building and investing and giving, not just giving charitably, but giving charitably and also investing that capital and also using it. They do an angel network and all these different things, and none of that's prescriptive or presumptuous. And we'll talk about that later. But, that's kind of episode zero. And then episode one really kind of focuses on, Mark green, who many people might be familiar with the green family, hobby lobby model Mart was the was the one who started Mardell when he was like 19 or something in Oklahoma. Really cool story. But as he went on, he also felt this need to do more. He had a successful business. It was doing well, but he was like, man, what do I want to be remembered for? What kind of impact do I want to have on the world? And he really got passionate about Bible translation, and that opened his world to all sorts of things that he began to build, to invest and give towards. So all of those are kind of the overview. We tell these stories in a very narrative form. It's kind of like Guy raz, how I Built This meets, NPR's Radiolab meets This American Life. So it's sort of a three act structure. It's real creative. There's sound effects and music, and it's a lot of fun to produce. So there's that aspect of it, too. And then the third thing I'd say, and I want to get y'all's thoughts on this as well, is a key part of what we try to do with those episodes is create a call to action. And Justin, you were talking about that idea of the accessibility and the idea that, for so many people, this is something that they don't know how to start. And so I've heard you use the language of trying to create those avenues. That is simplicity on the other side of complexity, because there's tons of stuff to navigate. And so one of the things we're trying to do with the podcast and the initiative as a whole is give people these really clear next steps and next directions. And so, Justin, you want to talk a little bit about that. Yeah. Just that. Yeah. Yeah. Access. 

Justin Forman You know, as we get into that, one of the things I would say is I really appreciate Joy the way that you bring like these cultural illustrations, I think entrepreneurs and investors understand. And I think the way that we've talked about topics like you could say, like Bible translation, you can talk about in a certain way that only captures the people that are already thinking about it or the way that we've talked about it for the last 20 years, and only captures the people that are left. What I love about the podcast and episodes you've shared with the team is, is that you're presenting it in a way that entrepreneurs and investors can understand, like that first episode that that coming up or actually may have just released is this idea of Coca Cola and talking about the market share that it has and how like there is what is it, less than 10% of the world that doesn't even I think that using your language recognize the gospel, the fizzy drink. And you know, when we see that market share as entrepreneurial investors, we know what that means. We know the downstream ramifications of that. We know what it means when your brand has had that kind of penetration. And then you compare and contrast that with the gospel itself and think, I mean, how is it that a fizzy drink is more known than the gospel that we carry? And so I love that element, but I'll, I'll dive into kind of what you framed up as. We want to make sure that those episodes leave people with a place of action. You know, we often talk about it here in Texas. There's not many pep rallies without a football game. But I think to your point, what is the greatest barrier now? There's many. But I think one of the barriers I know Henry's passion about this is that where question when you get launched in the where question, it can be paralyzing when you're trying to find the best places to build or to invest and to give in. You know, we were talking about this the other day. In relation to Google, what it was 25 years ago, about 25 plus years ago, that Google started. Somebody had a time capsule of a screenshot of Google and said, this is an index containing 25 million pages, and it was their first, screenshot of their, their search engine. And in parentheses, they had to even say soon to be much bigger because they were saying, like, there's more information coming. But the point of that little subtlety was there's more and there's more and there's more information. I think it was at dinner last night that, I don't know, one of the kids was saying that there was like 2.5 million videos uploaded every day. And you just think about just how we've moved from a place of like scarcity on information to being so overwhelmed that it's paralyzing. You know, I think that we saw this even recently when people are talking about the Giving Pledge and they talked about the way it motivated people to generosity, but people are getting stuck. They've convinced that they need to do something, but they don't know where to give. They don't know where to invest. They don't know where to deploy this capital. And so, led by Andrew and our team and others across the movement, a collaboration of family offices, ministries. Working through it, we're endeavoring to say, how can we highlight some of the best first steps? It's not the only step, but how do we highlight some of those best first steps on each one of those? So when you go in there and you find out about, you know, solving a problem like trafficking, you're going to see places where you can give some great ministries like International Justice Mission and work that you can give to, but you're also going to find some of the best places where you might invest and hear about, you know, the Freedom Fund with Eagle Venture and ways that you can invest into businesses that are trying to root out trafficking all around us. And so I think you're right. We have an overwhelming task ahead of us. There is an overwhelming amount of information out there. And yet I think there are tools coming of age and there's collaborations happening where we can find the simplicity on the other side of complexity. 

Henry Kaestner Amen. Absolutely. And I think that we can't reinforce the concept of big enough. It's a three part approach and strategy to solving the world's greatest problems. And when God calls us, I don't think he compartmentalize our vocations from our giving, from our investments. He just wants us to know him more fully and then be captivated by the injustice or in addressing poverty. That's in the world. And it's Galatians 210, let's take care of the poor, the very thing we should be eager to do. But each of us plays a role in that, and for many of us, it's to build something to solve that problem. There are thousands of phenomenal, faith driven entrepreneurs that are leaning into opportunities, solving problems, and that's where much of our audience is going to resonate with the stories that we highlight there. Others, of course, are going to be thinking about giving. And we know that giving is a big place, and we know that it's more blessed to give than receive. And we see over and over in Scripture about how giving is important. And yet we also know that there's a lot of great research talking about where giving might do more harm, both to the recipient and to the giver. And there's toxic charity and that aid. And so giving needs to be done thoughtfully. And we're going to try to wade into that. I mean, these are very complex issues. We're not going to be able to be the authoritative source on everything, but we're going to try really hard to find those that have given their lives to investigating these problems that are as close as you can come to as an authority on the problems in the world. But before we go too much further in it, gosh, I don't think on every podcast episode I try to present myself as a resonant theologian, but we also need to acknowledge the fact that I know what the biggest problem is in the world, and we could just stop the whole ministry right here. The biggest problem in the world is me. The biggest problem in the world is sin. And, gcam. What I'm doing here, I've got to give proper attribution. Is G.K. Chesterton in Orthodoxy. I am the biggest problem. Sin is the biggest problem. And then there's a real spiritual battle. So we have to be conscious of all those things, but we're gonna endeavor to do just that. We're going to try to find this simplicity on the other side of complexity in such a way that will draw people closer into a relationship with God as they get down on their knees and say, Lord, show me the problems you want me to be involved in solving, and then allow me to participate in solving those problems. In spite of the fact that I'm an imperfect vessel. May I shine your glory through me as I get to work on some really cool projects with others together and the community of Christ. 

Joey Honescko Yeah, it's a good, G.K. Chesterton quote. I did want you. You mentioned the big concept there, Henry, and you kind of talked about it. The idea of build, invest in, give. Can you unpack just for a second that framework. And we talked about there are three legs of a stool. They're not different things. They often overlap. So can you just give a little bit of a framework for what we mean when we talk about big or build invest in give and how they relate to one another? 

Henry Kaestner Sure, absolutely. So weird. I think that we're called to love God as we understand the value, the gift of life, giving us our our response to that is that then come in to worship God as the one leper out of the ten and and in a loud voice just proclaim his glory and then say, I want to bring all that I am and all that I have, since it's all yours anyway. To the altar is my meaningful form of worship, and for a lot of people, what they have is entrepreneurial ability. They're natural problem solvers. They get out there, they find a minimum viable product, they get product market fit, they lean into the problem to be solved. They they get and inspire and encourage others to join a team to solve the same problem. They work well with their customer and with partners and vendors and and that's what their gifting is. And so many cases, with challenges, there needs to be a new entrepreneurial, just. Solution to what we're looking at. And in some cases profits can come alongside it. And in other cases, it's not the primary motivation being to to solve a problem or lean into or find an outcome that needs to be addressed. So that's that's the build and that's much of our legacy. We started life off as faith driven entrepreneur. The largest of the different ministries were involved in now reaching almost 100,000ft or not friends around the world. So of course we have a passion towards continuing to serve and inspire and encourage that constituency, those people. And then when you look at invest, you know the origin behind the faith driven investor ministry that we have that's been around now for about five years, also with content and community, is providing like minded capital alongside those entrepreneurs being able to pour our lives in in terms of being a great mentor or a coach. And of course, bringing in the type of capital allows those entrepreneurs to have, in many cases, the the fuel that they need to accomplish all that God has set out for them to do. And then giving will continue to be a big part of what we always do when we come to understand that it's all God's anyway. Giving is something that brings us closer to knowing God in a way that's different than building and investing. As entrepreneurs and investors, when we build or we invest, it's incredibly powerful. And because it's done in the marketplace where 39 of the 40 miracles in acts happen. It does. It deserves top billing. And yet there's something about giving, giving it up. Freely given, which means we can't lay claim to it anymore. We're not going to be the entrepreneur that's going to be talked about in newspapers and heralded by our peers, and we're not going to get the type of investment return that sees our pile continue to to rise. When we give, we're giving it up in a way that allows us to be freed from the shackles that might otherwise hold us back in the spirit of mammon. And so, because our biggest and highest use is to know the God of the universe and his love for us the most, we want to get rid of the things that would otherwise entangle us. And finances are so oftentimes our case, and then get it in the hands of people that can address those real problems. And in many cases, that's relief. And it's coming in after disasters. And in other cases it's it's investing in giving to education. And we need to despite the fact there's lots of research out there about how giving can be done poorly, giving can also be done really, really well. So we need to wade into that too. 

Justin Forman Yeah, I think the way that like that's such a deep way of looking at it, I, I mean I think oftentimes I think a cultural way I would equate it to is we spend so much time saying, who's the greatest basketball player in all time? LeBron, Kobe, Michael, which one it is. If we wanted to step into being a moment of prescriptive, I would have my favorite. And I would agree with my friend Henry here who just voted. So now that that's clear. While we might like Michael, it all changes when the conversation change. Changes from not who's the best player, but what if they were playing on the same team? And I think that's what this site is so much about. It's like, what does it look like if the people that are called the build, the people that are called to come behind and invest, the key people that might come well ahead of time and seed that we're behind with giving. What if all of that was on the team? What if we change that conversation? There's no doubt you'd look at that and say that's most dominant three on three team you've ever seen. If you put those three together. And I think that's what we're on the verge of or something like this is where the world waking up to saying each has its place. There's an order, there's a sequence to it. But also like, how do we actually do it? And I think that while we're starting with content and, you know, we can talk about maybe some of the community things that we hope will come out of it. We want to be clear, to say that this is not going to just stop there. Whether it's putting the light on, giving, collaborations, investing, collaboration, other things, funds that are happening, we want to make sure that people find ways to get into the game. And so, that might be coming alongside some of the giving collaborations that are out there that might be highlighting some of the funds that already exist, or it might mean inspiring people to go start a new fund or a new giving collaboration. But we are very convinced that we have to make it easy. We have to make it accessible for people to take that next step. And so while we're not there today, and there's still a long way to go to get to that, it's going to place, it's going to be a place where we're going to experiment, we're going to test some things. And as Henry said on some of the videos, more releases, it is early and we will make mistakes. No doubt we are going to make mistakes. That's what entrepreneurs and investors do. You try, experiment might fail. You're going to retool and you're going to get back out there. But we need to make sure that we're cracking ways, cracking the code on ways for people to get in the game and not just talk about it. 

Joey Honescko Yeah. That's great. Think, one one thing that you mentioned there, talking about playing on the same team in collaboration. You also mentioned that idea of community and at faith in an entrepreneur and faith driven investor. Both parties are very passionate about not just content, but content and community. And bringing those people together. So let's stop just for a second about the role that community will play in solving the world's greatest problems, not just in the initiative, but even in all of the episodes that we've, already produced for the podcast community was such a key part of the giving story, the investing story, the building stories. Like no matter who it was, they needed other people to help shape them, help them to think differently about it. So just Henry, maybe you start us off, just talk about the role that community plays when we are solving the world's greatest problems. And then maybe, Justin, you can come in and talk about the role community will play in the actual initiative itself. 

Henry Kaestner Anytime Jesus sent people off, he sent them off in twos. And we've got to do this in community. And, and and it's much more fun. But and you know so I talked about Galatians 210 before, which is to take care of the poor, the very thing we should be eager to do. Ephesians 210 talks about the fact that we each have different things to bring to the equation. When we can be brought together in a community of others, and somebody has one perspective and somebody else has a different experience, and someone has got some, some drive and some organized organizational power, and somebody else has got the power of intercession. When you bring together a community of people focused on solving a problem that's unbelievably dangerous, and it's dangerous from the forces that would otherwise hold back. The solving of problems of, of injustice. And so that's one of the things we've learned as part of our DNA and fate driven, not foreign, fate driven investor. In each case, we highlight, content, great storytelling. And then it's really community come from the content Justin says is very, very well come for the content, stay for the community and people have. And we expect the same thing here. 

Justin Forman Yeah. I think, what I would add on here is I know we're coming to a close is I think that there's an element when you think about community. That's been one of the greatest challenges in the church for years is trying to find assimilation. And how do you get people together, oftentimes is broken down by your zip code or the age of your kids, and those are meaningful things. Don't get me wrong, there's tons of reasons why some of that works, but I think another one that's undersold at times is when you find some people that share a passion for a similar problem, but then want to find a plan and get get going to find it. And, you know, there's a great ministry out there and halftime and we're partnering with them and this and in different other areas of the ministry to say, what does it look like for people to intentionally really get clear and discover the problem that you feel called to solved, but then to get free from some of the things that might be holding you back, but then to get going and take those steps of getting in the game with friends. You know, we were just at Christian Economic Forum and Chuck Bentley, one of the phrases he says is, you know, so often you can look throughout history and some of the great problems of the world were solved by friends coming together. So therefore go and make friends. And I think that that is really. The spirit of this idea of community is to find those people that share that passion for the similar problems, and to go and make friends and have fun doing it. 

Henry Kaestner Indeed. 

Joey Honescko Yeah. That's great. Well, thank you both for kind of giving an overview of the initiative, talking about the heart behind it. It is like you guys are both said it's an audacious goal, but it's something that is possible because of the Holy Spirit. And so he can do incredible things through his willing church. And so, listeners, check out the website. That's probably the best thing to do from here solving the world's greatest problems. Dot org you can navigate there are, 30, 30 problems. Yeah, 30 problems, seven categories of these problems. You can navigate through each one individually and see stories that inspire you to do something, give you some great next steps on places to give or potentially invest. You can see tons of videos, listen to the podcast, and then start thinking about how you might want to get involved in that community as well. So Justin Henry, appreciate you both joining and giving a little bit of overview for this joy. 

Henry Kaestner Grateful for you. Thank you for helping, making it happen and leading. And great to be with you guys. 

Joey Honescko Thanks for listening to the Faith Driven Entrepreneur podcast. Our ministry exists to equip and resource entrepreneurs just like you. With content in community. We know entrepreneurship can be a lonely journey, but it doesn't have to be. We've got groups that meet in churches, coffee shops, living rooms, and boardrooms around the world. Find one in your area or volunteer to lead one and bring this global movement to your own backyard. There's no cost, no catch, just connection. Find out more at Faith Driven entrepreneur.org.