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Episode 382 – Why Every Entrepreneur Gets Generosity Wrong | John Cortines

Host Justin Forman sits down with John Cortines, author, generosity advocate, and a leader at the Maclellan Foundation, to unpack the heart transformation at the core of every faith-driven entrepreneur’s relationship with money. Recorded at the Kingdom Advisors conference, this conversation begins in a Harvard Business School Bible study and ends with a vision for professionally managed giving funds that could rival the mutual fund industry in scale.

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What would happen if the most driven, wealth-building people in the room completely rethought their relationship with money? John Cortines knows, because he lived it. From a Harvard MBA student whose bank password was literally “retire@40!” to a leader at a globally active giving fund, John’s journey from saver to generous giver is as practical as it is transformational.

In this episode recorded live at Kingdom Advisors, John walks through the two questions that reframe everything: not “How much do I need to give?” but “How much do I really need to keep?” He unpacks the four heart conditions (pride, coveting, anxiety, and indifference) and their gospel antidotes: gratitude, contentment, trust, and love. Drawing from King David and King Nebuchadnezzar as the ultimate biblical contrast, John shows how subtle pronoun shifts reveal where our hearts really are.

John also casts a bold vision: professionally managed giving funds becoming as mainstream and accessible as index funds, so busy entrepreneurs can give with the same rigor and joy they bring to investing. Don’t miss this one.

Chapters:

00:00 The Nebuchadnezzar vs. David contrast on wealth

00:52 Introducing John Cortines: family, farm, and faith

03:11 The journey into generosity: Harvard, Chevron, and a Bible study

05:00 The wrong question Christians ask about money

07:02 Flipping the script: How much do I need to keep?

08:04 Studying generosity with student loan debt

10:21 Why secular effective altruism felt joyless

12:42 Missing the prayer component in collective impact

13:37 Financial finish lines: lifestyle and net worth guardrails

15:14 The shadow side of entrepreneurial ambition

16:00 True Riches: the four heart conditions around money

17:28 Pride—and why pronouns matter for entrepreneurs

18:49 Nebuchadnezzar vs. King David: the pronoun test

19:57 Practical gratitude: what it looks like daily

21:25 Coveting and contentment: the mansion test

23:35 Social media and the battle for contentment

25:47 Anxiety to trust: seeking first the Kingdom

29:42 Indifference to love: the hardest heart shift

33:07 Going on the generosity offensive: collective giving

35:28 Joining God’s heart for the global poor

37:02 Professionally managed giving funds: the vision

39:14 From mutual funds to giving funds: a tsunami shift

42:06 The joy of community in collective generosity

44:13 Celebrating gifts with your family

45:24 First step for busy entrepreneurs: offer the 100%

46:51 Closing encouragement and next steps

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