Podcast episode
Episode 390 – Why Ego, Not Ambition, Is Killing Your Leadership | Chip Ingram
Host Justin Forman sits down with Chip Ingram, pastor, author, and CEO of Living on the Edge, for a conversation recorded at South by Southwest that reframes ambition, love, and servant leadership through language entrepreneurs actually recognize.
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Chip Ingram has spent decades pastoring some of the most driven, high-capacity leaders in the country — and he’s convinced the church has been telling entrepreneurs the wrong story about their ambition. In this conversation recorded at South by Southwest, Chip and host Justin Forman unpack what it actually looks like to lead boldly without losing your soul.
They dig into the mutual intimidation between pastors and entrepreneurs, the discipleship process Chip built to develop marketplace leaders instead of recruiting them into church programs, and the word Chip and Justin coin together — “humbition” — for holding ambition and humility at the same time. The conversation moves into servant leadership, God’s sovereignty versus human responsibility, and why sharing failure builds more trust than sharing success ever will.
Chip closes with a redefinition of love as a covenant choice rather than a feeling — and why every entrepreneur needs a small circle of people who have permission to tell them the truth.
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Chapters:
CHAPTERS
00:00 Cold open — the secret to servant leadership
01:17 How God has been building this wave for 30 years
03:02 Why pastors and entrepreneurs intimidate each other
06:49 Building a church around entrepreneurial leaders
08:04 Measuring impact, not numbers
12:16 The theology behind ambition and greatness
14:55 Coining “humbition”
16:04 Getting permission to dream big
19:57 What servant leadership actually means
20:26 Why ego has to die
22:47 God’s sovereignty and human responsibility
25:37 Why nobody wants to talk about their failures
30:02 Breakthrough is born from brokenness
33:52 Redefining love as a choice, not a feeling
40:18 Finding a safe place to be truly known
43:41 Closing challenge — find your people
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